If you need screencap evidence, fine. Ball is out of his hands. Clock is still at 0.1. The red light is not lit:

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    1. bubbaprog Post author

      It doesn’t have to be definitively out of his hand. It has to be definitively IN his hand in order to overturn the call on the court of a made basket, according to the NCAA rules.

      1. House

        That is 100% incorrect. Check out the conversation between Mike DeCourcy and Andy Staples on twitter:

        NCAA rule states “When definitive information is unattainable with the use of monitor, the original call stands.” Where you’re incorrect is assuming that “Definitive information in unattainable” means that they can’t tell by viewing the monitor. That’s not what it means. “Definitive information…unattainable” means that there is no video replay, or the system is defective. The system was working fine. The officials determine that the ball was still on his fingertips when the clock read 0:00.

        They didn’t default to the original call because the monitor and video replay was working, and in their estimation, the shot wasn’t off in time. Point blank, period.

      2. House

        And besides, this was your headline for this picture:

        “If you need screencap evidence, fine. Ball is out of his hands. Clock is still at 0.1. The red light is not lit:”

        That was what my original question was directed towards. How do you figure it was out of his hands based on this picture?? It seems your response did a zig zag around answering my question, and was only directed towards the review.

        Confusing response is confusing.

  1. Jason

    The officials do not use the truck footage. They have their own footage to look at. The Pac-12 installed separate equipment in every arena in the league, so the officials would have their own film. This has been confirmed on Twitter by the truck crew and a UA official via Bruce Pascoe.

    Point being, anyone saying there wasn’t conclusive evidence that the shot wasn’t good may be incorrect, since that footage hasn’t been seen by the public.

    By the way… That picture only seems to support that the ball is not out of his hand. It is slightly behind his wrist. If the ball was out, it would be out in front of his wrist moving towards the basket. Being slighty behind, or right over, the wrist would hint that at least his fingertips were on the ball.

    The space you see between the ball and his hand is simply ghosting from motion. That’s why the basketball has taken on a football shape, obviously.

    1. House

      “It is slightly behind his wrist. If the ball was out, it would be out in front of his wrist moving towards the basket. Being slighty behind, or right over, the wrist would hint that at least his fingertips were on the ball.”

      Wow, that’s a great point. Hadn’t even thought about that. The ball would most definitely be a few inches in front of his arm after release. No one releases the ball OVER the top of their arm; it’s always in front.

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